Ogreven

[azkul]

These creatures appear to be a cross between a mountain dwarf and an ogre...There are some parts of them that can not be identified as to which ancestor it might have come from. These creatures do not get taller than 48". Their average ht is 41" males and 38" females.

+8 Strength, +2 Dexterity, -4 Charisma, -4 intelligence (cannot go below 3)
speed is 20 feet
Low-light vision: Can see twice as far as a human in starlight, moonlight, torchlight, and similar conditions of poor illumination, retains the ability to distinguish color and detail under these conditions.
+2 natural armor bonus
+2 racial bonus on any check involving working iwth earth.
Automatic Languages: Dwarf, Ogre
Favored Class: Fighter, Barbarian
Level Adjustment: +2

[Ark]

Interesting idea. What size is it?

You should probably use even integers for the ability modifications. I would change the dex to +2 and the charisma to -4 and the int to -4, and also make sure to state that for sentient creatures theres a minimum of 3 intelligence (meaning you can't go below that).

I would also think this is more of a +2 level adjustment. Compare it to the Minotaur, which has near the same stat boosts but more natural armor and is a level adjustment 3.

[azkul]

changes noted, thank you Ark

[Ark]

Cool beans. Good job.

[Skurvy]

An intriguing idea, but it needs a little background - how do these crossbreeds come about, how do they fit in with both dwarven and ogre societies, how do other races view them, etc.

Skurvy

[azkul]

Well try to develop more on your suggestions Skurvy....but it will be this weekend, before i get around to getting that done...look forward to the revised edition coming to you later this month.

[Ark]

It's looking much better, but the +1 dex is uneven...+0 or +2 please!

[azkul]

Sorry Ark, thought that I had made that change already

[Ark]

Oh don't apologize. I'm just joking around. It's perfectly fine to have an odd bonus, just not what d20 normally does. Good job by the way :ok: